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Just Jim
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posted 10-18-2001 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats the difference between '66 V8 motor mounts and the earlier type?I have the '65 3 piece set-up, consisting of a frame mount,intermediate bracket and motor mount.The '66 uses a frame mount and motor mount with a thru bolt.I'm installing some Hooker #6208 1 3/4 primary headers and the notes call out the later type mounts. Will the headers fit with the early type mounts,and if not where would I get the '66 type frame mounts? Thanks.

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67coupe
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posted 10-18-2001 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe   Click Here to Email 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not real sure bout the hookers but with a little massageing we got a set of 68 headders to fit my buddys 65 fastback i dont think the mounts were even in the way but im not sure

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-18-2001 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Hooker headers will fit just fine with the early mounts. No modifications to the mounts are required at all.

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Alex Denysenko
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Stang28965
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posted 10-18-2001 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the early mounts, the "L" shape bracket on the drivers side is bent on mine. I bent it back but it just bends again, I can't seem to find a place that sells the new part. I also seem to rip up the driversside mount also (must me the bent braket) Can anyone help me out?

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-18-2001 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take them off and weld reinforcments to them. That's what we do all of the time. There are no aftermarket replacements available that I am aware of.

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Stang28965
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posted 10-18-2001 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks moneymaker, just that side is so screwed up I'd rather buy a new peice, I don't think I could bend it back into shape if I wanted Its bent down, and then where the top hole is it kinda sags in. I bent it back and put some padding on the top part to flatten it out. Any ideas why they would not make this part? Thanks again.

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Just Jim
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posted 10-18-2001 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,thank you.I figured you would know about the header/mount deal.Now I can worry about something else.Maybe the 1 3/4 headers will wake up the old bird a bit.

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Dr. Who
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posted 10-19-2001 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Who   Click Here to Email Dr. Who     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the Mustang magazines had an artical about using shorty headers on early cars and it said to use the 69 type frame brackets that come out and a little down with the matching mount. Anyone ever heard of this?

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-19-2001 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some used 65-66 early mounts.

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Alex Denysenko
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Stang28965
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posted 10-19-2001 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm How much? Can you get a pic so I know we are talking about the same part please? I had a motor mount just give once, and it started my car on fire!!!! A bolt from the stater hit the frame and the battery did not like that, It happen on its way to inspection haha and it still passed. Now I just have a peice of rubber hose on the hot wire for the starter.

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-19-2001 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are a good used set of early three piece mounts/ The angled block part, with a rubber insulator, the frame mount and a blot to hold it all together. They are in excellent condition.

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Alex Denysenko
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Stang28965
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posted 10-19-2001 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So....... how much?

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kcode
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posted 10-20-2001 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing to look at when using early mounts with Hookers. Some of the aftermarket mounts have excess metal where the mount is bolted to the engine block. I had trouble on the drivers side. I had to grind about 3/8" off the back corner, it about punctured a hole in one of the primary tubes, I didn't realize the interference while I was tightening the flange bolts. Maybe not all repop mounts are this way.

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-21-2001 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They make "aftermarket" early three piece mounts Mike? Who offers them and how much are they?

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Alex Denysenko
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Just Jim
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posted 10-21-2001 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Mike was referring to the metal part of the motor mount where it bolts to the block,some have a little excess "meat" around the bolt holes which sticks out. By aftermarket I think he means not FoMoCo,but auto parts store replacement types.

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kcode
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posted 10-21-2001 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,
The mount I had trouble with is on Becks convert, I used the 65 mounts. The insulator bracket, made in Thailand, LSB M-2220 interferred with the header.

I did see where NPD is selling the top doughnut for Hipo mounts now. At Atlanta I picked up a set of Hipo rubbers top and bottom, cost me $138. There is a guy in the Detroit area that is making Hipo rubber mounts, I don't know of anyone repopping the triangle metal bracket. There is a guy in NC that has a bunch of complete Hipo mounts, for the price they must be gold plated.

Just for general information to anyone wanting to duplicate a Hipo mount, the cast frame brackets for an A or C code look similar to the K code brackets, but are not the same. There is 1 1/4" difference in the flat mounting pad.

Jim, I didn't see your post, but you are correct on the excess metal around the bolt area.

Mike

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-21-2001 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I should not give up MM's original mounts then should I?

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Alex Denysenko
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Stang28965
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posted 10-21-2001 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess i'll just have a crocked engine forever.

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sigtauenus
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posted 10-21-2001 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stang28965:
I guess i'll just have a crocked engine forever.

LOL, such sarcasm! Hey dude, there's a junk yard nearby that has about 15 or so old mustangs and of them probably at least 3 or 4 still have the frame motor mounts, no engine. Look around, they are readily availabe, and no doubt cheaper to just buy locally than to pay price plus shipping.

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Stang28965
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posted 10-21-2001 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look where I live! Rochester (land of snow and salt) we don't have any old car yards Do you know of a place that makes the mounts for a 65?

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I65Stang
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posted 10-21-2001 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stang28965:
Look where I live! Rochester (land of snow and salt) we don't have any old car yards Do you know of a place that makes the mounts for a 65?

http://www.californiamustangs.com/ has used '65 mounts. Click on "used parts". This guy is actually right down the street from me, I got my drivers side bottom seat frame from him.

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