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Oldhorse
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posted 08-30-2001 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oldhorse   Click Here to Email Oldhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the correct blue to paint a 66 289 4V block, heads and manifold. I'm finding a "Medium Blue" and a "Dark Blue". Both are called "Ford Blue".

I'm using POR 15.

Thanks
Les

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mellowyellow
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posted 08-31-2001 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has been discussed before,and a number of different brands of paint were suggested. My question: Why POR 15 on the engine? I've used a rattlecan with success on engines as it seems practical and I've never had paint deteriorate on an engine {assuming, of course, that the surface is clean} I use #224 PlastiKote Ford Blue, which is an accurate match.
You'll get other opinions and brand names,{many other good ones} am sure. Also, I mention this method because not everyone has access to spray equip.

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Oldhorse
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posted 08-31-2001 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oldhorse   Click Here to Email Oldhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mellow...
Thanks for the reply. I still don't know if medium or dark blue is the right color.

I use POR 15 as a brush on coating. On manifolds I put them in the oven at 400 degrees for about 30 minutes. My wife hates this. POR 15 creates a very hard coating that can be cleaned easily if oil or fuel spills on it. I clean my 57 BelAir engine with mineral spirits and the paint comes through bright and shiny. The more you heat the engine up, the harder the coating becomes.

Critical to its use is a veryclean surface. I wash the metal with a mixture of water and Dawn dishwater soap, rinse well and dry with a hair dryer or put in the oven.

My Chey is now 5 years old and 4000 miles since the restoration and the engine still looks brand new. I love POR 15.

POR sells a medium blue and a dark blue. I ordered dark blue but hope to resolve the issue before I start painting.

Regards,
Les

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-31-2001 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Les, I believe you are right, and it is supposed to be dark blue.

Dark blue looks better in my opinion, anyway.

I painted the last engine I built light blue, and it never looked clean after that. From now on, all the engines I build will be dark blue or black.

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'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
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mellowyellow
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posted 09-01-2001 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ford blue that I refer to is a Dark blue but not the darkest. It was called Corporate Blue. When I look at the pics of Bob Perkins 66 with 2,000 original mies, or Ferrel Buis' 67 with 10,000 miles, I know that Corporate Blue is the color of that era. MCA{if that's important} does allow a darker shade of blue and considers it correct, also. If you are able to come to the Mustang 25 th show, you will probably see both shades. Not long ago, I got an original paint 66 air cleaner at a show for CHEAP. It is the Corporate Blue color. Go with what you are happy with.

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mellowyellow
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posted 09-01-2001 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is really interesting. The MCA judging manual states that "1966-82: All engines are dark Ford Blue entirely" This is where the fun begins. On 64 1/2's the 260 had a light blue that was, well!, differently a lighter shade of blue. In l966, they came out with the Corporate Blue which is really a dark blue. But somewhere along the line, they came out with an even darker shade of blue. That's as far as I'm going! I remember hearing an argument about it at a Cypress Gardens, Fl. show. I know both shades are accepted. Would like to hear from some MCA judges on this.

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