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ToddStyles
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posted 08-15-2001 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToddStyles   Click Here to Email ToddStyles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anybody make a complete hood pin kit similar to the 70-73 mach I twist-lock style? i see the assorted pieces, but not a kit. i'd like to retrofit a set to my '65 repop hood. thanks, todd.

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1965 2+2 GT, A-code 289 w/351 heads, Autolite 4100 on a C9OX intake. T-5, 9" Versailles w/4.11 t-lock.

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RICKS
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posted 08-15-2001 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, I'm not aware of anybody offering a kit. You've got to purchase all the pieces individually. Everything is available, but you're talking about one heckuva big investment for a non-original application. Plus getting everything installed cleanly and functional on a 65-66 would be a potential nightmare. You would have to fabricate your own brackets for under the hood, etc.etc..

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-15-2001 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, the '69-'70 and the '71-'73 latches are different. The '69-'70 are smaller.

Expect to pay about $250 for all the parts.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC
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RonnieT
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posted 08-15-2001 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT   Click Here to Email RonnieT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve,

The 69 used actual pins with cables, not the twist lock style the 70 has.

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Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
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RonnieT
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posted 08-15-2001 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT   Click Here to Email RonnieT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd,


Found this listed on the KAR Mustang site listed under their NOS Parts.


Twist hood locks (D1ZZ-16C896-A) $200 pair


You can give George or Kevin a call and they can tell you what is in this kit.


K.A.R. AUTO GROUP
Operating Hours:
Monday through Friday 9:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M.
Saturday 9 A.M. to 1:00 P.M.


K.A.R. Auto Group, Inc.
1166 Cleveland Avenue
Columbus, Ohio 43201
(614) 294-4433
FAX: 294-5692


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Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
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[This message has been edited by RonnieT (edited 08-15-2001).]

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ToddStyles
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posted 08-15-2001 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToddStyles   Click Here to Email ToddStyles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ronnie, thanks for the research. I'll call them tomorrow and see what they've got. Todd.

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1965 2+2 GT, A-code 289 w/351 heads, Autolite 4100 on a C9OX intake. T-5, 9" Versailles w/4.11 t-lock.

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RICKS
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posted 08-16-2001 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The D1ZZ-16C896-A twist hood locks are NOT obsolete (technically), They're being run using the original tooling by Carpenter. They're a plentiful part.

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ToddStyles
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posted 08-16-2001 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToddStyles   Click Here to Email ToddStyles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are they just the assemblies that attach to the hood? what about the mechanism they lock onto? I'm assuming it's mounted on the radiator support. thanks! Todd.

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RICKS
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posted 08-16-2001 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Under the hood on a 71-73 there is a very large bracket with a latch-plate bolted to it on each side of the front of the radiator support. There is absolutely no room for these brackets on your '65, end of story. Given the tight amount of space available behind the grille on a 65-66, the '68 Shelby setup is the only "practical" way you'll get this done. The underhood brackets are 1-piece, tiny, and can mount about anywhere, and all the stuff you would need is alot less expensive than the 70-73 gear.

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ToddStyles
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posted 08-16-2001 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToddStyles   Click Here to Email ToddStyles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the honest answer... i was trying to get away from the clip and lanyard approach, but looks like that is my only option. thanks for all the good advise! Todd.

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1965 2+2 GT, A-code 289 w/351 heads, Autolite 4100 on a C9OX intake. T-5, 9" Versailles w/4.11 t-lock.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-16-2001 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RonnieT:
Hey Steve,

The 69 used actual pins with cables, not the twist lock style the 70 has.


You're right. I was just reading that in an article on Troy's web site. {Web site of the month, I might add.}
http://home.att.net/~t.esrey/
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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC
Ford. The closer you look, the better WE look!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-16-2001 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ToddStyles:
thanks for the honest answer... i was trying to get away from the clip and lanyard approach, but looks like that is my only option. thanks for all the good advise! Todd.


There are also the hood locks that use those soda machine locks.

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ToddStyles
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posted 08-16-2001 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToddStyles   Click Here to Email ToddStyles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do those look? i haven't seen any installations close up. i really need to get out more and see what's available...
Todd.

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1965 2+2 GT, A-code 289 w/351 heads, Autolite 4100 on a C9OX intake. T-5, 9" Versailles w/4.11 t-lock.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-17-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They look ok. Not great. I have them on my Sprint. They have a 2 1/2 to 3" diameter stainless plate with a coke machine lock in the center.

Keeps people out of the engine compartment, that was pretty important to me at the time. I think Summit still has them for around $25.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC
Ford. The closer you look, the better WE look!

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