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Gearhead
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posted 08-02-2001 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does any one have an idea if you can distiguish an early 65 from a late 65 by VIN? What I need is a range in consecutive numbering where the switch was made, or the month (don't need an exact number, just an idea of when in production the switch was made).

I have a fellow asking a question about his 65 convertible possibly being a pace car because of the "C" paint code. I know that the "C" paint code identified Honey Gold on the late 65 cars, which I suspect his car is (nothing else on the car matches up with the information we have on the dignitary covertibles used at Indy either, but he seems quite insistant). The data on the car is:
Body: 76A
Color: C
Trim: 28
Date: 21M
DSO: 26
Axel: 6
Transmission: 6
Warranty # : 5F08C378126

I decode it as a late 65 model that came
with Honey Gold paint, Ivy gold w/gold Palomino vinyl interior and the 200hp 289 2V mated to the C-4 auto tranny.

Any additional info that anyone can provide?? I don't have my date code book with me, could someone give me the breakdown on the 21M code? Thanks everyone!!

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posted 08-02-2001 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
early (64.5) cars did not have a "C" code engine option available yet. They only had "F" code 260 2V, "D" code 289 4V and "K" code 289 HIPO.

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Gearhead
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posted 08-02-2001 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
early (64.5) cars did not have a "C" code engine option available yet. They only had "F" code 260 2V, "D" code 289 4V and "K" code 289 HIPO.


Thanks Alex, I thought that was the case. I just got a reminder about the decoder on FoMoCo.com and ran the codes through it and it confirmed what I had decoded for the car. It is definitely not one of the pace cars... it was built on December 21, 1964, 7 months after the Indy 500 race that the Mustang paced. Oh well!

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66HIPO&more
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posted 08-02-2001 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66HIPO&more     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Ian all the Pace car convertibles were whimbleton white, not pace car white. Only the coupe "replicas" were color code C.

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Gearhead
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posted 08-02-2001 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gearhead   Click Here to Email Gearhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66HIPO&more:
Also, Ian all the Pace car convertibles were whimbleton white, not pace car white. Only the coupe "replicas" were color code C.

Joyce


Yep, that's the info that I had... just thought that I should confirm it with all my great sources out here!! Thanks Joyce.

By the tone of his second note (after I had informed him that all my research shows that his car is not one of the convertibles), I would say that he really wants this to be on of those rare cars... it is just not to be!

"No means no".

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mellowyellow
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posted 08-02-2001 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dec. 21, l964 is the date. Not an early car. Production of the 64'5/65 ran from Mar-64 to Aug. 65. It was the longest production run of any one model year of the Mustang.

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