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Fastback68
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posted 07-23-2001 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my next US trip, I've decided to bite the bullet and spring for the Total Control rack 'n' pinion. On their website, they say their rack 'n' pinion works with the factory PS pump, but their KRC steering pump "definately compliments the precise operation of our Rack & Pinion" (TC: Should be "definitely complements"!)
My factory PS pump is not dead yet, but it's getting tired. Should I spring for the TC pump too, or is it just hype they're selling me? They explain how wonderful their pump is, but they DON'T explain how it "complements" the rack 'n' pinion. IMHO, when something "complements" something else, it brings out the best in that something else. In other words, only with their new pump will you get the best out of their rack 'n' pinion.
At the price this little package goes for, I guess not many of you have tried it!
Thanks,
Simon

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JAAZZY
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posted 07-23-2001 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I can understand how the R&P would help steering feel but I don't quite get the pump. A friend of mine told me that just about any aftermarket pump works. The problem is the fab work. The TC stuff is expensive because they have worked all the bugs out and it bolts right in. Even the R&P is the same as the dozens of others out there it's the easy bolt in you're paying for.

I removed my power steering and went manual because it just didn't feel safe. It would sometimes overboost. That's fine at low speeds but could be deadly at higher speeds through a turn. I will eventually go with a manual R&P. Let us know how your TC kits works out.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 07-23-2001 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pump is a normal KRC circle track pump that you can buy for $200. the trick is in the brackets. KRC has a website somewhere.....

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Fastback68
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posted 07-23-2001 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big difference in price. The KRC pump kit Total Control is selling (the KRC 20000) goes for $480. See:
http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/krc.html
I'm gonna find that KRC website!

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Fastback68
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posted 07-23-2001 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mpcoluv - boy, we have some strange names - you're right! I found the basic KRC20000 at ...
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/steer1a.htm
for $222. So Total Control charges $260 just for the brackets 'n' stuff???

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jkilroy
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posted 07-24-2001 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, TCP can charge those kinds of mark up cause the average Mustang fan cannot fab those parts themselves.

However this brings up a point, that the dirt track guys get some good prices. I have started picking up parts at various dirt and circle track parts suppliers cause the prices are VERY good.

I feel that this is for a few reasons.

1. The average dirt track guy CAN do a lot of the work themselves so the retailers can't gouge you.

2. The market is more competitive. There aren't a whole lot of people selling rack and pinion kits for classic Mustangs are there? There was rumor that Global West was doing there own, I would like to see what that would do to the prices.

3. The average dirt or circle track racer breaks enough stuff that if the prices were outrageous they would not be able to afford the hobby.

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Jay Kilroy
68' Fastback GT 390
"No such thing as a cam thats too big"

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Fastback68
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posted 07-24-2001 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, good comments Jay. I know what you mean. In the Philippines, people are masters of fabrication. It's common in poor countries. For things like brackets, it's a no-brainer. If only I could get hold of those Total Control templates ...

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Mpcoluv
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posted 07-23-2001 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet KRC sells a bracket for a 302/351W.
The late model stock guys occasionally run 351Ws. I think KRCs website lists a ford bracket. Damn. I just searched for the KRC site and can't find it. Still I bet they make a ford head mount bracket.....

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