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VonYount
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posted 07-22-2001 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay,

So when I'm cruising above about 1500rpm, I get a bad shudder in the driveline when I give it a certain small amount of throttle...

--Give it a lot of throttle, no shudder...
--Completely let off the throttle, no shudder...
It's only at that certain throttle point and I can't figure out why...


-Ryan

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-22-2001 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vibrations always have a certain speed where they are most pronounced.

Has the driveshaft been off recently? You could try turning it 180 degrees and see if that helps.

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mellowyellow
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posted 07-22-2001 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 65 has a bad vibration over 85-90 mph. My thought is, Oh well. Guess I wont't go there anymore! I put 1000 miles on my engine, and one day, On Alligator Alley, I decided to see how fast it was. It had plenty left but the vibration "rev limiter" prevented anymore runs. LOL!

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VonYount
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posted 07-22-2001 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope,

I haven't had the driveline off--Could it be some kind of weird misfire?


-Ryan

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'66 Mustang Coupe
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-22-2001 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take it for a drive and take note of the rpm and speed that the vibration is the worse. Then when you get to a clear spot, take it out of gear and see if the vibration is still there.

If it's a vibration at, say, 2200, if it's in the engine it will vibrate at 2200 even if it's not in gear.

If you get it rolling at the vibration speed and it does it without it being in gear and the engine idling, you'll know it's in the drivetrain.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC
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mellowyellow
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posted 07-22-2001 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good information!!

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69maverick
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posted 07-22-2001 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have air shocks? If so have raised or lowered the car? I have seen alot of cars vibrate when raised up to much!

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VonYount
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posted 07-23-2001 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope,

No air shocks. It's weird--I'm gonna go out and check my U-Joints in a while, but I took her out on the freeway this morning, and I couldn't try Steve's suggestion (on account of my C4 in rush hour traffic).

But I did notice that it only seems to appear from around 60-70mph, above or below that range, I can feather the throttle and it's smooth.

Between 60-70mph, however, the vibration typically comes on around 2100-2500rpm, but it doesn't seem to be dependent on the revs so much as it is on the speed.

I can accelerate fine through 2100-2500 rpm with no trouble, it's only when I'm crusing at that speed and rpm and decelerate...everything's hunky-dory until I get to a certain amount of "part-throttling", at this point the shudder comes on and I either give her more throttle or let off the pedal altogether, both serve to eliminate the shuddering.

???????????????
-Ryan

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69maverick
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posted 07-23-2001 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick   Click Here to Email 69maverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The other thing that would be the easiest is an unbalenced wheel! or a broken belt in a tire!!

[This message has been edited by 69maverick (edited 07-23-2001).]

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Doc
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posted 07-23-2001 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of ours chased one of these odd deals and it was the converter in his C4. It would do it in or out of gear at speed but not at the same RPM sitting.

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bluetech
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posted 07-23-2001 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluetech   Click Here to Email bluetech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
69maverick may be right! When shudder is experienced at a certain speed(not dependent on rpm) and disappears at a lower or higher speed, the problem is almost always unbalanced wheels. Have your wheels checked for balance and hope this clears the problem.

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