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sigtauenus
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posted 07-04-2001 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. The fiberglass panels in the back, what is the best way to strip them and/or prep them for paint? Mine have some places that are pealing, so unless I strip all the old paint off, when I paint it again it will be uneven and ugly. Also, what is a good black paint to use for the finish.

2. The chrome vent panel on the interior quarter vents, they are riveted to the fiberglass panel. Is there any way to remove them so they can be rechromed and then reattach them?

3. Anybody know any good chrome platers? I'd rather ship the parts to get chromed for a quality job, as I have nobody reasonably close local.

4. Is the fastback rear glass gasket something I can try myself or should I just take the car into a windshield place and have them change the gasket for me. I am terrified of accidently breaking the glass in the process of changing the gasket, they are difficult to find, and mine is in excellent shape.

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mustangs68
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posted 07-05-2001 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. The fiberglass panels in the back, what is the best way to strip them and/or prep them for paint? Mine have some places that are pealing, so unless I strip all the old paint off, when I paint it again it will be uneven and ugly. Also, what is a good black paint to use for the finish.

Sig I used a small brass brush similar to a toothbrush to clean mine that way I got into all the nooks and cranies..
takes time but at least you don't damage the surface of the fiberglass.
Check McMaster or Graingers if your local hardwear store don't have them

2. The chrome vent panel on the interior quarter vents, they are riveted to the fiberglass panel. Is there any way to remove them so they can be rechromed and then reattach them?

Never had them off so I'm no help here

3. Anybody know any good chrome platers? I'd rather ship the parts to get chromed for a quality job, as I have nobody reasonably close local.

Most Chrome plating today is subpar when compared to yester-year due to the the removal of many of the Chemicals now deemed Hazardous.
Finding a good Plater with and Arsnic base solution is impossible.

Closes you may come is a bright Nickle Sufamate Bath but over time even this will start to peel and degrade.

Check Hemmings for a listing of Platers.

Asks if they electro Plate (use electical power) or electroless plate (chemical reaction) the part..you'll want the electro plate vs the chemical reaction plating.
and the base (type) of their plating solution

4. Is the fastback rear glass gasket something I can try myself or should I just take the car into a windshield place and have them change the gasket for me. I am terrified of accidently breaking the glass in the process of changing the gasket, they are difficult to find, and mine is in excellent shape.

Sig sound like me..I take it to a good glass shop too

sam

BTW,
I hven't done any Plating since the late 80's so I may behind a step or two on the current baths..sam

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T5owner
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posted 07-05-2001 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T5owner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The inner chrome vent covers can be rubbed with a toothbrush with thinner, the chrome somewhat cleaned with 0000 grade steel wool, then reapply the black colour, after drying wipe the black with washing (degreaser) from the chrome fins. Thats what I did with mine and they looked a lot better after that, although not perfect.
For chroming check out a good sorted scale model shop. There is sth. for plating plastic pieces. I would try Eastwood as well. I think they have sth. for this.

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sigtauenus
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posted 07-09-2001 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, after a weekend with a gallon tub of laquer thinner and a brass toothbrush and krylon semiflat black, my interior panels are looking pretty sharp.

As for the vents, I got a suggestion to cut the chrome panels off to have them rechromed, and then drill the "stud" and tap it for a small bolt, but the stud part is so thin I'd have to drill it perfectly center and then use like a #4 machine screw, which I don't even know where to go get one. The other thing I heard was to glue it back in, which I don't even want to think about doing on MY car. Still working this issue. Next on my list is to email the boys at NPD adn Scott Drake and ask if they could put the metal chrome panel on the list of things to reproduce, and just let the reproduction have enough metal on the back that it can be screwed to the fiberglass or riveted back on like original.

Local shop wants $45 for the window gasket, and $55 to install it. Latest Mustang Monthly says that the repop gaskets are actually better than the ones still available from Ford. Anybody concur? I think the repops sell for under $20 from a mustang vendor.

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mellowyellow
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posted 07-09-2001 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not so sure about ALL that was said re w/strips. That is a general statement because there are different levels of repo w/strips. I agree that Ford is not as good as it used to be and they are getting out of the vintage business, anyway. I had to work extra hard with a helper to do a 67 fastback rear lite using repo . Someone will NO DOUBT say it was a cakewalk- wish them luck.Maybe they had Ford or a better repo. I've used Ford w/strip on last 2 w/shields. Glad I had them. A good brand of window w/stripping is Midland, out of Midland City, Al. Opinion. I've had good luck with re-pops belt line w/strips. Glad they mentioned 3-M weatherstrip sealant, Not the glue!! SIg: Maybe you could set a RESTOMOD trend by adapting 66 Shelby 1/4 windows! Just a joke!LOL! Only kidding! Please!! not without a chute!!

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mellowyellow
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posted 07-09-2001 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot something! How did you like the stance on that gold 68 Fastback, in latest MMonthly, with those sharp TT II's? and the lowered look. That car sits just right IMNSHO! Not too crazy about gold but everything looked right on that jewel!

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sigtauenus
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posted 11-09-2005 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
I forgot something! How did you like the stance on that gold 68 Fastback, in latest MMonthly, with those sharp TT II's? and the lowered look. That car sits just right IMNSHO! Not too crazy about gold but everything looked right on that jewel!

Oops, apparently I missed this a few years ago. Sorry Pete. I'll see if I can dig that issue out of the archives and look for the gold 68 fastback.

Still need to find a way to fix those chrome vent panels in the back...

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Fastback68
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posted 11-09-2005 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've already dismissed the option of gluing them back in, right? That had been done on one parts car I had adnd I didn't see any problem with it as a way to go for mine too. But I didn't do it 'cos I don't think those parts would be easy to chrome. They're pot metal, aren't they? I've had no joy locally rechroming anything except good ol' steel.

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sigtauenus
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posted 11-10-2005 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, they're pot metal all right. I'll have the same problem with the a/c vents too when I got to have those done.

Hopefully this stuff will be reproduced soon...

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68 S-code GT
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posted 11-11-2005 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My vents are looking kind of bad I and I would like to get them re-chromed but I know the guy will just laugh at me when I show them to him. I?ve always been told that they could not give me an estimate until they stripped the old chrome and had a look at what was going on under there. That pot metal really sucks!

I?m about to find out how hard it is to replace the gasket. I have the glass out and want to paint the car first though.

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Ed S.

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68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC Bla-Bla-Bla
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