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68Mustang
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From: Auburn, AL
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 06-28-2001 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68Mustang   Click Here to Email 68Mustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I tried for the longest time to try and make the clutch cable work for my z-spec T-5 in my 302 equiped 68, but it seems that I might as well go with regular linkage. I saw the pivot piece from Windsor-Fox which means I won't have to buy a new bellhousing. Just wondering if there is any documentation with pictures anywhere on the installation of all the linkage and Z-bar, etc. and if I need to worry about engine specific parts. Full-length Hedmans won't be a problem, will they?

One last ditch effort is from Performance Engineering in Rosemead, CA for the cable conversion. Anybody know anything about them.

If anyone has any other info it would be greatly appreciated.

I want to get my car back on the road, been without a Mustang for long enough.

Marshall

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1968 302 5-spd Fastback, Modified
1965 Coupe
1981 F-150

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ccode67
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From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 06-28-2001 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the process of a T-5 z spec swap into my 67 coupe, I went with the stock linkage and early bell w/ adapter plate, I tried to research the cable and hydralic setups and couldn't get enough info to choose them, I have since heard others had trouble with the hydraulic setups offered by a couple of different people, yours is the first cable troubles I've heard of, whose conversion was it ?
Stock linkage is a bolt in affair, if you have a late model motor you need the engine side pivot bracket (Windsor Fox) or for early motor the stud screws into the block, all new linkage and bushings, boots, rods,z bar etc. set me back $250 or so, this was everything from pedal to bellhousing all brand new.

Good luck.

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Stuart MCA #48902
67 stang 5 speed
91 f-150 xlt
98 explorer xlt sohc v-6

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ccode67
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From: douglasville,ga,usa
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posted 06-28-2001 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS, I'd like to know about the headers myself, z-bar clearance and tranny clearance.
Any one else with this setup?
My swap is on hold for a month or so, too many projects.

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Stuart MCA #48902
67 stang 5 speed
91 f-150 xlt
98 explorer xlt sohc v-6

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68Mustang
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From: Auburn, AL
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 06-28-2001 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68Mustang   Click Here to Email 68Mustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well my last ditch effort was talking to the guy at Performance Engineering. He said everyone who was trying to use other suppliers parts didn't have it work out to well. I am waiting on some literature to figure out if I am willing to part with more money, but since you said it cost you $250 for the linkage it is making my decision harder. At Performance Engineering they take your brake, clutch, and mounting bracket and do some mods and make their own clutch cable instead of the stock T-5. I'll update you on what I find out, hopefully the stang will be out terrorizing again.

Marshall

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1968 302 5-spd Fastback, Modified
1965 Coupe
1981 F-150

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ccode67
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From: douglasville,ga,usa
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posted 06-29-2001 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me know what you decide, I was in touch with them too, check on his roller bearing pedal support conversion also, it sounded pretty good to get rid of the plastic bushings.

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Stuart MCA #48902
67 stang 5 speed
91 f-150 xlt
98 explorer xlt sohc v-6

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68Mustang
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From: Auburn, AL
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 08-19-2001 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68Mustang   Click Here to Email 68Mustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I went with the conversion from DB Performance Engineering. Sent the pedals and the support in. They modified the clutch pedal and installed the new bushings. Installation was simple with the steering column out of the way. Drill one 9/16" hole in the firewall and you can retain the power brakes. Didn't take long and I am very impressed. Only thing is now I have a vibration that could be any number of things. It is only when power is going to the wheels. I torqued the flywheel and pressure plate to specs. Tranny should be in good shape. Had the driveshaft shortened and balanced. The rearend is the same one that was in with the automatic(no vibration with the auto). Any ideas would help.

Thanks

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1968 302 5-spd Fastback, Modified
1965 Coupe
1981 F-150

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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 08-19-2001 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your tailshaft seal leaking? I'm thinking your tailshaft bushing could be bad.

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kcode
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From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-19-2001 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
68Mustang,
Which transmission yoke did you use?

Mike

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68Mustang
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From: Auburn, AL
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 08-23-2001 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68Mustang   Click Here to Email 68Mustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the same yoke as with the automatic transmission, I think its original to the car. I know it has to be somewhere in the driveshaft or rearend. Only problem is that I am 200 miles away from it right now. Thanks for the info so far, I'll have those looked into and get back with you.

Thanks

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1968 302 5-spd Fastback, Modified
1965 Coupe
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KenB
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From: Regina, Sk, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 08-23-2001 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenB   Click Here to Email KenB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got my T5 swap done last month. Replaced a C6 in my 69 Cougar with a 351C using a hydraulic clutch kit form Johns Mustangs. I didn't have any problems other than identifying exactly where to mount the master cylinder, a few phone calls to Johns Mustangs and this was taken care of. I also retained my power brakes. US$400 for the kit I am OK with since I don't have to mess with any linkages and if I do put headers on then I won't have clearance problems.

In my opinion the hydraulic clutch kit is worth looking into. I also heard of "problems" with these kits but mine is AOK.

Just an opinion, other peoples may vary!

Ken

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