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The Buckmaster
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posted 05-27-2001 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Buckmaster   Click Here to Email The Buckmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a search and as was suggested I replaced the regulator.When I ground the gauges they also will move like they should.The regulator is hot on one side and sends a pulse from the other side like a signal blinks.I also know I have power going to the fuel gauge.What should I try next?It looks to be ground related.I'm hot on the one post of the regulator,it pulses comming out and all the clusters are pulseing.Even the wireing to my gas tank has power that pulses.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-27-2001 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try jumping the ground to the body.

What shape are the body grounds in?

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The Buckmaster
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posted 05-28-2001 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Buckmaster   Click Here to Email The Buckmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The body grounds are all new.We tried a jumper wire to the instrument cluster.no change.I took one of the regulators and ran it straight from the battery and it still has this pulse.Should the current be solid or pulse.I even tried another cluster,disconected the engine harness and four regulators.Nothing has helped so far.I still have current out to the sending units and gas tank area.

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Doc
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posted 05-28-2001 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you should run a long hot from the battery to the + side of the guage regulator with the existing supply wire disconected as a test. I don't think there's supposed to be a pulse. Can you hear a tic like a signal flasher while pulsing?

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kcode
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posted 05-28-2001 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume that the regulator you mention is the constant voltage regulator on the back of the dash panel. If it is, the voltage out is a pulsating voltage. The two terminal studs on the back of the gauge, are your wire connections oriented correct?
Have you checked the resistance at the fuel pickup to ground? I'd have to look up the resistance readings for a full tank versus an empty.
Mike

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richard bohm
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posted 05-29-2001 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the voltage leaving the ivr(instrument voltage regulator) will pulse. it uses a bi-metalic spring that heats up and cools off the maintain about 5.5 volts. pull the fuel sending unit and test it with an ohmmeter. you can get the specs from the shop manual on what the readings should be. also check the mount area for the sending unit, if it is not clean that will cause the bad ground.

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The Buckmaster
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posted 05-29-2001 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Buckmaster   Click Here to Email The Buckmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have tried just about all of the things mentioned.I,ve cleaned it,gave it extra ground and they still did not work.If you ground the lead wires the gauges will climb.I still need to check the sending unit resistance.Oil pressure,temp and fuel do not work.This thing will drive you crazy.

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Doc
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posted 05-30-2001 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc   Click Here to Email Doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you use teflon tape on the senders? This wouldn't effect the gas guage but it can keep the senders from getting grounded.

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The Buckmaster
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posted 05-30-2001 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Buckmaster   Click Here to Email The Buckmaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No tape was used.

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