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KenB
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From: Regina, Sk, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 05-10-2001 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenB   Click Here to Email KenB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am planning to install a T-5 with late model bell housing which I already have. Car is a 69 Cougar with 351C and C6. I also plan to go with a cable clutch package.

I know that DB performance offers the cable clutch conversion, Windsor-Fox is working on one according to their web-site. I would like some more info from members here that may save me wasting $$ and still provide the best package.

1) Can I use an original flywheel from a four speed car with a Cleveland, if so would not all 302's and 351's use the same flywheel if I stick with the early 28 oz balance units. Plan to use the 10.5" late model clutch (if this is an issue) With this info I can look at a salvage yard.

2) Any other places to go for a cable clutch package? I have a company name and number that has a hydraulic clutch kit conversion at US$350. Prefer to use the cable.

3) DB performance can supply the clutch/brake pedal assembly at a high price (I beleive they said US$400 for the pedal assembly). Anyone use a cable conversion with original clutch/brake pedal assembly? Seems to me there are no modifications or at least simple modification. If so I will try and track these down at salvage yards, if extensive modification to the pedal assembly is needed then there may be a benefit to ordering from DB performance.

Thanks for any suggestions you guys can offer.

Ken

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Mpcoluv
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From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 05-10-2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
For my money, I would use the Hydraulic setup offered by John's Mustangs and classics.
WWW.Johnsmustangs.com
It bolts to the side of the T-5 and eliminates the need for the clutch cross shaft and you can use cheap headers.

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richard bohm
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From: tucson,az-luray,va
Registered: May 2001

posted 05-10-2001 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
be careful as to which flywheel you use. all s/b ford including the 351w and 351c flywheels interchange. BUT the 81 and later 5.0 flywheels have a different imbalance built into them. 80 and earlier all flywheels have a 28 oz imbalance whereas the 81 up 5.0 flywheels have a 50 oz imbalance. the 351w stayed the same at 28 oz. if you want to use the late style diaphram clutch (i recomend it) you can get one form centerforce. they have a setup that bolts to the older style flywheels (long style bolt pattern).

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KenB
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From: Regina, Sk, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenB   Click Here to Email KenB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starting to think more about the hydraulic. My concern is that I would be SOL if I had a problem a few years later since all components are custom. With the cable clutch I could easily repair myself with over the counter parts. But I guess if I have a problem with the hydraulic I can find a way to repair or make my own modifications.

It looks like I need a 157 tooth flywheel from any pre-78 small block (I beleive it is pre-78 that is 28 oz). Richard, thanks for the tip on the bolt pattern as I do intend to use a diaphram clutch.

One thing I forgot to ask:
Does anyone know what clutch/brake pedals will fit the 69/70 Mustang/Cougar? Is it only these two years and cars, or will 67-68 years fit or other cars of the vintage? This info would help in checking salvage yards for this assembly.

Thanks,
Ken

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richard bohm
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From: tucson,az-luray,va
Registered: May 2001

posted 05-12-2001 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can get a flywheel with the correct balance for your engine and have the late model diaphram clutch bolt pattern(actually they have both patterns on them) but likely your flywheel is in good shape so dont spend the money. if you do have to upgrade centerforce can help you there as well. as far as the hydraulic clutch is concerned, the components are off the shelf and john's mustangs can tell you which ones he uses so you can but parts over the counter.

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