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Topic: Need help on a weird 428 claim!!!
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Randy
Journeyman Posts: 34
From: Newriver,Az. U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-29-2001 04:48 PM
   
I'm talking to a guy who has some 428 short blocks for sale, I'm looking to buy one. He says he has several 428 replacement blocks and one cj block. I never heard of a replacement block. He says they are factory blocks, no numbers on them though they do have the 428 casting in the freeze plug hole, that they have the extra webs cast on the main supports and extra meat for cyl. wall. That these blocks are just like the cj's but don't have the numbers. Is this for real? The guy sounds genuine to me, but I don't know much. the rods are supposed to be the C7AE-B with 3/8 bolt, the crank, 1UB. Sure could use some help here, the price seems right and I plan on buying this set-up now if this is legit. HELP!------------------
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 446
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 06:43 PM
MEasure the bore. All FE blocks do not have the casting marks that they are supposed to have.
When in doubt, measure.....
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Randy
Journeyman Posts: 34
From: Newriver,Az. U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-29-2001 07:27 PM
the block is in Neb., I'm in Az. If it has the 428 in the center freeze plug hole and the extra webbing for the mains support, does that mean it's a cj?
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 760
From: Nashville, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 04-29-2001 08:16 PM
Randy, I saw this first in Sam's Place and answered it there.Tracy
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4055
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 04-30-2001 12:15 AM
FE block numbers dont seem to mean much...i have a heavy truck 361 block that doesnt have the extra rib, i also have a 390 with the "66-427" cast into the back that doesn't. The 428 in the freeze plug hole is a better sign, there should also be a casting date, no CJ's before about Nov 67 but PI blocks would be the same.
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Randy
Journeyman Posts: 34
From: Newriver,Az. U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 12:57 AM
it is supposed to have the ribs outside, I don't know about the casting date, I'll get more info. He's not claiming it to be a cj or a pi, but a "replacement" block thats the same if not better than a cj. Just that it doesn't have i.d. numbers. I just never heard of it. if it's all true I'll take it, no problem. I'm not too crazy about this buying sight unseen stuff, I guess that what it takes. R [QUOTE]------------------
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 712
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:23 AM
I also own a 428 CJ "service" short block. It was a "crate" short block sold over the counter at a Ford dealer in the early-mid 70`s. I bought the engine years ago from a guy who pulled it out of a pickup truck. I have the card that came with the short block SOMEWHERE.It would be the same type of thing if you went to a Ford dealer today & ordered a new 302 short block over the counter. There are a few differances between my service short block & my production CJ engines. The service block has the external ribs on the lower outside area, & the rods are the std. CJ 13/32" bolt units, however they use 5/8" head nuts on the rod bolts, compared to the 19/32" nuts on the production rods. By the way, the main webbing does have the extra reinforcments like a regular CJ block.
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Randy
Journeyman Posts: 34
From: Newriver,Az. U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-01-2001 12:50 PM
I think I'll go ahead and get this block, sounds like a good piece. About the C7AE-B rods, did they have 3/8 bolts or 13/32 bolts
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Rich Pajzer
Gearhead Posts: 72
From: Newton, New Hampshire Boss 351
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-01-2001 07:40 PM
With some blocks, a non-numbers service block means that the block is clean, and doesn't have a VIN stamped into it?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 13182
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-02-2001 09:44 PM
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