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JAAZZY
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posted 04-26-2001 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In looking around it seems that the only way to fit a larger set of tires is to flare the fenders. Are there any other choices. My car is lowered about 2 inches and the 225s on the front just fit. The back also has 225s but I think I could probably squeez in a 245 with another 1/2" of back spacing.

I'd like to be able to do something like 265 on the front and 315s on the back. I think this would be enough rubber to make it handle well and launch great even with street tires.

Also I was wondering if there are different styles of fender flares. The only problem I have with flares is that they don't follow the body lines well. If there are several places they are availble I would like som opinions on the ones that look the best. I've seen a few and they all look the same.

I like the way TCP did their factory car but that looks like it would cost mucho bucks! All that cutting, bending and welding would take a lot of hours. As always your responses are appreciated.

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TomP
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posted 04-26-2001 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
handle well AND launch great? not really such a thing,one will need to be compromised.

I wouldn't do the flares myself, kind of passe nowadays, but clearances are tight and the tires are gonna need to rub sometimes when the largest ones are stuffed in.

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JAAZZY
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posted 04-26-2001 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you in that it's a compromise but not impossible. My car is basically a street car. If I had to choose between an autocross or drag car it would be autcross. I guess I'm looking for something more like modern muscle cars like the Viper or the Z06. They handle well and still pull off some great 1/4 mile times. One thing they both have in common though is some serious rubber. My Mustang being a little lighter I would guess that I could get away with slightly smaller tires like maybe 255s and 285s but without the wide rubber in the rear and a stroker under the hood I don't see how I could ever get traction without E/Ts. Without wide enough rubber up front like I have now the tires can't handle hard turns without breaking away. I ran a roadcourse and this was my biggest problem.

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Originally posted by TomP:
handle well AND launch great? not really such a thing,one will need to be compromised.

I wouldn't do the flares myself, kind of passe nowadays, but clearances are tight and the tires are gonna need to rub sometimes when the largest ones are stuffed in.


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Nos351C
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posted 04-26-2001 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nos351C   Click Here to Email Nos351C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are stuc kbetwee na rock and ahard place, if you want to go outwards, you need to flare the fenders, if you want to go inwards, its move the springs.. which sounds more appealing?
The widest I have seen in the rear of a 65-66 without modifying the car was a 245...

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JAAZZY
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posted 04-26-2001 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd really prefer not to flare but in the end I'll make a decision based on the performance. I'm guessing that after I join the Shelby club I'll see cars that have done one or the other. I think what's funny is that I'm willing to spend all this money to mod an old Stang to handle better rather than start with a Camaro that already has the space.


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You are stuc kbetwee na rock and ahard place, if you want to go outwards, you need to flare the fenders, if you want to go inwards, its move the springs.. which sounds more appealing?
The widest I have seen in the rear of a 65-66 without modifying the car was a 245...


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steve'66
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posted 04-26-2001 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JAAZZY:
I think what's funny is that I'm willing to spend all this money to mod an old Stang to handle better rather than start with a Camaro that already has the space.



YEAH BUT WHAT FUN IS THAT!

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Nos351C
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posted 04-26-2001 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nos351C   Click Here to Email Nos351C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bah humbug.. if you are going to buy a new Chevy, buy another Vette, the best $ to performance car going in my book...

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TomP
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posted 04-26-2001 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guess the way i'd look at it is...

why bother, something else will ALWAYS handle better, put 335 tires all the way around and that darn Mike Andretti fella is still going to pass you on a corner.

Bad handling cars are lots more fun anyways,sliding tires is fun. While it may take a bit more effort to get a 49 Merc around Willow Springs but its gonna be more fun than driving it in a Cavalier

[This message has been edited by TomP (edited 04-26-2001).]

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AKBOSSMAN
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posted 04-26-2001 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AKBOSSMAN   Click Here to Email AKBOSSMAN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The weight of bigger tire are also a factor

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JAAZZY
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posted 04-27-2001 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys crack me up. IT is fun though you are right. I don't think I'll ever have as much fun in a car as I did in my 66, at least until that pole jumped out infront of me.

I'm on my way out to turn that suspension back to stock.


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Originally posted by TomP:
i guess the way i'd look at it is...

why bother, something else will ALWAYS handle better, put 335 tires all the way around and that darn Mike Andretti fella is still going to pass you on a corner.

Bad handling cars are lots more fun anyways,sliding tires is fun. While it may take a bit more effort to get a 49 Merc around Willow Springs but its gonna be more fun than driving it in a Cavalier

[This message has been edited by TomP (edited 04-26-2001).]


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