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project66
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posted 04-17-2001 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good morning, folks-
I'm going to remove the box from my 66 tonight and would like to have it rebuilt. Seem to recall there was a consensus here on the best place to have that done but I didn't archive it. Can anyone help?

Thanks-
JimO

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project66
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posted 04-18-2001 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying again

Has anyone used Mullins steering gears? Went through 30 pages of search results and they were the only co. I came up with.

Thanks again-
JimO

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RICKS
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posted 04-18-2001 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We (NPD) offer a rebuilding service. We send our boxes to Roger Rode in Ohio to be rebuilt, on a core exchange basis. The cost basis is too complex to cover here, depends on the tag-code on your box as to what the rebuild price is and whether the core is required in advance, or simply as an exchange. Also, the amount of core charge that you receive BACK depends on the condition of the core, and I can honestly warn you that cores usually only warrant a 50% or less return of the original core value. Texas Mustang has an employee (or had an employee) named Shannon that was doing these rebuild on "the side" as well. Both Roger Rode and this Shannon fellow are known for good quality work.

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project66
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posted 04-18-2001 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for jumping in, Rick-

Yup. Rode's Restoration was the place discussed previously. I've sent him an email with my tag number.

Anybody taken a shot at doing this rebuild?

(Appreciate you being here and having NPD as an M&M sponsor, by the way).

JimO

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Nos351C
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posted 04-18-2001 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nos351C   Click Here to Email Nos351C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not opt for a new box from flaming river?

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project66
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posted 04-18-2001 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Short answer: don't have the bucks.
Man, wouldn't I love to though.

(Where'd the Foyt quote come from, Marcus?)

JimO

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Nos351C
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posted 04-18-2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nos351C   Click Here to Email Nos351C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know the feeling Figured I would throw it out there though..

That quote came from the last IRL race in Homestead, about two weeks ago.
Eliseo Salazar, was driving for Foyt and got passed with about 10 laps left by 21 year old Sarah Fisher for second place. Fisher ended up second, Salazar 3rd.

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RICKS
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posted 04-18-2001 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're going to carry the Flaming River boxes in our upcoming catalog because it appears the strong demand is there. But I admit I blew them off for years assuming that no one would pay that much for a steering box. Sometimes I'm wrong! Project66, glad you're on track now. No worries in dealing directly with Rode, we really don't make any appreciable money acting as the "middle-man" on those, it's really just a service we provide that we break even at after you factor all the handling and fanagaling with the core exchanges and back & forth communications. Good luck!

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project66
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posted 04-18-2001 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Marcus. Bet he wasn't smiling when he said it either. Foyt was always one of my favorite drivers.

Thanks again for the help, guys.

JimO

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-18-2001 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Rick at NPD: Are you going to carry the Flaming River tilt colums as well. The Ididit colums will not acept a Mustang wheel as they use the GM splines but I understand that FRiver does.

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Nos351C
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posted 04-18-2001 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nos351C   Click Here to Email Nos351C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick,
I don't have the budget for a new box yet either, but when I do, the choice is a new flaming river box, or the tcp rack `n pinion. I can gaurantee you that should I chose to spend $1700 on a part no one sees any way, it would be tcp's coil over setup, rather than a rack n pinion. So, a new box it will be.

Jim,
I can see ole A.J. hollering it and his face turning red when it happened. I am with you, I definitely could not see him smiling when he said it.

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RICKS
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posted 04-19-2001 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We'll be carrying the Flaming River tilt columns......once they're available. Word is that they will be rolling out this Fall.

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Jim Sams
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posted 04-19-2001 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Sams   Click Here to Email Jim Sams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the flaming river box, and it was not much more expensive than a re-built box from NPD. NPD would not accept my slow ratio core for exchange on a quick ratio steering box. The flaming river box is a quick ratio (16:1) box. All in all, a good buy.
New is almost always better than re-built.

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JAAZZY
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posted 04-20-2001 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAAZZY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my box rebuilt by Sacramento Mustang. It feels great. I have a quick ratio box. Basically it is just the power steering box that I converted to manual. The only problem is that with my suspension mods steering effort is significant at low speeds.
It's been a long time so I don't remember the cost.

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MrXerox
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posted 04-20-2001 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrXerox   Click Here to Email MrXerox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was considering having the box on my 71 rebuilt and was wondering how hard this is to do yourself? I wanted to make it a quick ratio unit by using the GM parts mentioned in this page https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/DanJonesSteeringBoxRatios.html but did not want to attempt the task if it requires specialized tools or skills...? Thanks gang...
Sean.

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sigtauenus
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posted 04-20-2001 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my 68's rebuilt about 4 years ago, sent the core in to Lancaster Mustang because it was 20 or 30 bucks cheaper than everybody elses prices and I was strapped at the time. I'm highly unsatisfied with it, in fact, was unsatisfied about 6 months after it was re-installed.

next time I'll pay the money for the flaming river box.

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Katherine
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posted 09-20-2002 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katherine   Click Here to Email Katherine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not a problem with my mustang--but it is a steering box problem....a manual steering box.
ok?

It is on my 65 Fairlane, and has broken compleetly!
In the driveway-fortunately.

But I called and asked around and found a place that is called Hilltop Classics in CA who claims many rebuilders do a poor job, because they keep getting all the RE DO'S.

however they want 500$ to 1000$ to rebuild with original ford parts.

how do I know this is good?
anyone heard of them?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 09-20-2002 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katherine, don't bother with that.

I've heard nothing but good things about Roger Rode's Restoration. He does great work and is priced very reasonably. Check out this post:

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Originally posted by project66:
I sent my steering box to Rode's Restoration for a rebuild last month. I had emailed with Mr. ROde a number of times about what they did and the expected expense. He told me anywhere from around $150 to $225 (worst case). I said fine and sent him the box.

I had email 2 days later saying that the box had been received, then again the following day saying that the box was repaired (bill was $142.50), had been shipped, and he was waiting on my check.

Nice to be treated fairly by someone so trusting.

JimO


Here's a link to his page:
http://www.bright.net/~rodes/

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project66
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posted 09-22-2002 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for project66   Click Here to Email project66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katherine-

What Steve said. I was 100% satisfied with my Rodes rebuild. Lots of other options on new/better boxes, but if cash is a consideration, go with Roger (or NPD, who will greatly reduce the "bother factor.")

Still alive and well!
JimO

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Katherine
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posted 10-03-2002 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katherine   Click Here to Email Katherine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys -project66 and SteveLaRiviera- for the info-I just talked to Roger at Rode's-he tells me to send it in, so I am going to (on my next off-day).
I appreciate the great helpful advice!

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