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Robert K
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posted 04-10-2001 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert K   Click Here to Email Robert K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,I know this topic has gone around before but I'm ready to order my subframe connectors now, and I'm still unsure which ones are the best. Has anyone used the ones from MustangsPlus?? I've ordered quite a few suspension parts from them and have been pleased so far. I want to get this done before I put the carpet in.

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Stang28965
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posted 04-10-2001 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stang28965   Click Here to Email Stang28965     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can still have the carpet in and weld them up, Where you are welding is right under the seat perch. That means the carpet is 3 or 4 inches from the main floor pan. (and frame rail) I got my connectors from tony branda, they were the bolt on kind, but from what I understand there is not a difference so I welded them in. I can't really say how much they helped becasue I had all new tires put on, new springs up front 1inch drop, and an exportbrace.
-Jeff
1965 Mustang Coupe
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302 Heads
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H-Pipe with dynomax mufflers
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Originally posted by Robert K:
OK,I know this topic has gone around before but I'm ready to order my subframe connectors now, and I'm still unsure which ones are the best. Has anyone used the ones from MustangsPlus?? I've ordered quite a few suspension parts from them and have been pleased so far. I want to get this done before I put the carpet in.


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Scott (69Mach)
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posted 04-10-2001 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott (69Mach)   Click Here to Email Scott (69Mach)     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got the full setup from Total Control Products including the cross-bracing. The cross-bracing sure looks like it will substantially reduce body flex compared to just connnecting the front and rear subframes.

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Robert K
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posted 04-10-2001 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert K   Click Here to Email Robert K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the brace was welded in the entire length of the floor pan. Welding wouldn't melt the carpet?

Would the cross bracing be in the way if you wanted/needed to do transmission or exhaust work??

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Scott (69Mach)
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posted 04-10-2001 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott (69Mach)   Click Here to Email Scott (69Mach)     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are two connectors that I've seen. One type just connects the front and rear subframes (bolted or welded). It doesn't connect to the floorboard sheet metal, just the subframes. The other kind is cut and welded into the floorboard from front to back. If you go the second route, you'll feel the connectors underneath your feet in the back seat.

The TCP cross-bracing unbolts from the front-rear connectors if you need to yank a tranny or work on the exhaust. You can check them out at:

http://totalcontrolproducts.com/subframe.html

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-10-2001 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We use C&E bolt in units then weld them in.

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Jim Sams
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posted 04-11-2001 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Sams   Click Here to Email Jim Sams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
We use C&E bolt in units then weld them in.


Who is C&E and how do I contact them?
Competition Engineering?

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 04-11-2001 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, go to:
www.competitionengineering.com
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Moneymaker
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posted 04-11-2001 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's them. A division of Moroso Performance Products.

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Robert K
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posted 04-11-2001 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert K   Click Here to Email Robert K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like the fact that you can connect the TCP connectors together with the cross brace. I don't like the fact that it is just attached at each end and not welded the full length of the pan. I'm not sure if my exhaust would be in the way though. It looks like the square tubing of the CE connectors (and others) would be easier to weld to the floorpans for added strength.

The more information I get the more confused I am.

Alex, did you weld your connectors the full length of the floor or just at each end?
Where do you order CE products from? Can you order directly from CE?


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Ken
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posted 04-11-2001 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just installed the bolt in connectors from "Competition Engineering" and they were a piece of cake to do . Maybe when I have my new "Traction Masters" welded in I'll have them hit the SF Connectors too !!!

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mvierow
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posted 04-11-2001 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mvierow   Click Here to Email mvierow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Mustangplus subframe connectors on my car. They seem to work well, though I haven't been to the track since I had them installed. I contemplated buying the TCP ones originally, but since I have pretty large headers I was worried about interferance with the center bar. If you don't go with the center bar I dont really think there is much difference between the TCP connectors or the MustangPlus connectors.

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