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Topic: Subframe connectors
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Robert K
Gearhead Posts: 472
From: Nashville, TN
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-10-2001 09:16 AM
   
OK,I know this topic has gone around before but I'm ready to order my subframe connectors now, and I'm still unsure which ones are the best. Has anyone used the ones from MustangsPlus?? I've ordered quite a few suspension parts from them and have been pleased so far. I want to get this done before I put the carpet in.------------------
67convertible 289/auto
65fastback 302/4sp
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Stang28965
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Webster New York USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-10-2001 09:36 AM
You can still have the carpet in and weld them up, Where you are welding is right under the seat perch. That means the carpet is 3 or 4 inches from the main floor pan. (and frame rail) I got my connectors from tony branda, they were the bolt on kind, but from what I understand there is not a difference so I welded them in. I can't really say how much they helped becasue I had all new tires put on, new springs up front 1inch drop, and an exportbrace.
-Jeff
1965 Mustang Coupe
289 Bored .030over
302 Heads
420 lift Cam
H-Pipe with dynomax mufflers
8 inch rear with 3.55's
4speed trans
http://members.cardomain.com/stang65 quote:
Originally posted by Robert K:
OK,I know this topic has gone around before but I'm ready to order my subframe connectors now, and I'm still unsure which ones are the best. Has anyone used the ones from MustangsPlus?? I've ordered quite a few suspension parts from them and have been pleased so far. I want to get this done before I put the carpet in.
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Scott (69Mach)
Gearhead Posts: 407
From: Walnut Creek, CA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-10-2001 09:44 AM
I got the full setup from Total Control Products including the cross-bracing. The cross-bracing sure looks like it will substantially reduce body flex compared to just connnecting the front and rear subframes.
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Robert K
Gearhead Posts: 472
From: Nashville, TN
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-10-2001 12:26 PM
I thought the brace was welded in the entire length of the floor pan. Welding wouldn't melt the carpet?Would the cross bracing be in the way if you wanted/needed to do transmission or exhaust work?? ------------------
67convertible 289/auto
65fastback 302/4sp [This message has been edited by Robert K (edited 04-10-2001).]
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Scott (69Mach)
Gearhead Posts: 407
From: Walnut Creek, CA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-10-2001 01:16 PM
There are two connectors that I've seen. One type just connects the front and rear subframes (bolted or welded). It doesn't connect to the floorboard sheet metal, just the subframes. The other kind is cut and welded into the floorboard from front to back. If you go the second route, you'll feel the connectors underneath your feet in the back seat. The TCP cross-bracing unbolts from the front-rear connectors if you need to yank a tranny or work on the exhaust. You can check them out at: http://totalcontrolproducts.com/subframe.html
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 17471
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-10-2001 11:44 PM
We use C&E bolt in units then weld them in.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
Fleet of FoMoCo products
Moneymaker Bio
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Jim Sams
Journeyman Posts: 55
From: Charlotte NC
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-11-2001 07:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
We use C&E bolt in units then weld them in.
Who is C&E and how do I contact them?
Competition Engineering?
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 916
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-11-2001 01:19 PM
Yep, go to:
www.competitionengineering.com
Ryan
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 17471
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-11-2001 01:21 PM
That's them. A division of Moroso Performance Products. ------------------
Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
Fleet of FoMoCo products
Moneymaker Bio
US Class Nationals link
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Robert K
Gearhead Posts: 472
From: Nashville, TN
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-11-2001 05:55 PM
I really like the fact that you can connect the TCP connectors together with the cross brace. I don't like the fact that it is just attached at each end and not welded the full length of the pan. I'm not sure if my exhaust would be in the way though. It looks like the square tubing of the CE connectors (and others) would be easier to weld to the floorpans for added strength. The more information I get the more confused I am. Alex, did you weld your connectors the full length of the floor or just at each end?
Where do you order CE products from? Can you order directly from CE?
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67convertible 289/auto
65fastback 302/4sp
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Ken
Gearhead Posts: 3483
From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-11-2001 05:56 PM
I just installed the bolt in connectors from "Competition Engineering" and they were a piece of cake to do . Maybe when I have my new "Traction Masters" welded in I'll have them hit the SF Connectors too  !!!------------------
Conciousness - that annoying time between naps. Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe 302GT40-4spd
www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Kens.html
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mvierow
Gearhead Posts: 149
From: Bay Area, Ca
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-11-2001 08:13 PM
I have the Mustangplus subframe connectors on my car. They seem to work well, though I haven't been to the track since I had them installed. I contemplated buying the TCP ones originally, but since I have pretty large headers I was worried about interferance with the center bar. If you don't go with the center bar I dont really think there is much difference between the TCP connectors or the MustangPlus connectors.
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