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Topic: itty bitty intake question
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 01:26 AM
Alex, I got a ? about the C9OX intake. I think I remember you saying its a really good for small blocks, but for some reason I thought it might have come originally on 351W's, in which case it wouldn't work on my 302. Is it a 289/302 intake or a 351W intake?
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TomP Gearhead Posts: 6376 From: Delta BC Canada Registered: Dec 99
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posted 04-04-2001 03:50 AM
there is one for both types... easy the visually see the difference, the 351W intake is at least 2" wider.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 09:45 AM
oh, so I have to trust this guy on it then. Otherwise I might buy something only to have to turn around and try to sell it again.
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Tom351 Journeyman Posts: 93 From: Marietta,GA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-04-2001 11:53 AM
You could have him measure the distance across the width between bolt holes and make sure it matches what you need.------------------ 67 Fastback - Arctic White Pearl paint 351W ,Trick Flow Aluminum Heads, Edelbrock TorkerII, Carter 750 CFM, Comp. Cam 477/510 219/[email protected], Performance Automatic C-4 Trans, 3.55 gears, Front Disc Brakes, 1-1/8" Fr. 3/4" rear sway bars.
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cobraii351 Journeyman Posts: 87 From: Altoona, PA Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 12:08 PM
Also the 351 intakes will have 4 extra bolt holes in the corners.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by cobraii351: Also the 351 intakes will have 4 extra bolt holes in the corners.
Ahah!, so I should be able to tell from a picture. I'll go check into it. Thanks guys!!
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racin jason Gearhead Posts: 291 From: Sidney, OH Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-04-2001 05:46 PM
351w is C9OX-9424-A, 289/302 is -B
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 08:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by racin jason: 351w is C9OX-9424-A, 289/302 is -B
ok, now Jason is the man. It is a -B and I checked the pic, only one hole in the corners. Thanks again guys.
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 8198 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-04-2001 11:13 PM
According to Alex, that manifold is basically the same as the old Cobra intake only he says the C9 flows better. Have looked at a few Cobras on the ground at swap meets, be careful of cracked ears or ends. I remember one at Pensacola MCA a few years back that had been heliarced. A neat job but it was damaged goods. I saw one here locally that was cracked. Not wanting to rain on your parade but.......let the buyer beware.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-05-2001 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by mellowyellow: be careful of cracked ears or ends......let the buyer beware.
Pete, already thought of that. I specifically asked that and got the reply that it had no such problems. I will of course pay with postal money order in case I'm not satisfied...my new way of doing business since I heard that seller can be charged with mail fraud if he misrepresents a part.
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 04-05-2001 11:11 AM
C90X-9424-B is the correct FoMoCo Muscle parts intake number for installing 351W heads on a 289 block. It is the best 180 degree intake ever made for a 289-302 W! No brag, just fact! ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-05-2001 05:01 PM
one other thing fellas. Will it work with both autolite and holley carbs? I'm still using a 4100 but would like the option to upgrade in the future.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 48752 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 04-05-2001 05:03 PM
Yes, the 4100 and the Holley pattern are the same. ------------------ '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip '97 Probe GTS 2.5L Disposable Commuter "Keep your driveway all Ford!"
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-05-2001 05:57 PM
COOL!! I hear what you're saying and I like it alot.
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 04-05-2001 08:18 PM
Remember if you ever want to sell that intake I get first dibs! It works especially well with a 1.12 600 CFM Autolite carb with mechanical secondaries. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-05-2001 08:30 PM
My 4100 is a 1.08, so 480 cfm? For some reason the core charge at Pony Carbs is higher for the 1.08 than it is for the 1.12, so I'm going to see if I can't trade them mine 1.08 for a rebuilt 1.12 when I'm ready for the upgrade.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-08-2001 01:06 AM
Alex, I'm afraid I let that first C9OX slip through my fingers, BUT I'm talking with somebody else about another...we'll see what happens.Anyhow, I heard that Ford Motorsports is putting out the same casting under part # M-9424-A321. Is that true? I think he said it lists for about $175. Would you say the motorsport intake is as good as the original C9OX is?
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-09-2001 02:47 PM
I've got two sellers on the C9OX, one wants $250, the other $275, which is higher than I expected but they're both in the same ballpark, and its still cheaper than a Shelby intake. I have heard that the Motorsport intake I listed in previous post is so close to the original intakes that its authorized in vintage racing. It looks the same anyhow. If the only real difference is the name cast into it, I think I'd rather have a new one for $175 than a used one for $250. Alex,if you want the emails of those guys who have them for sale, let me know, or if you think the price is too high or a deal, let me know that too.
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sprcoop Gearhead Posts: 780 From: Tucson, AZ usa Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 04-09-2001 08:48 PM
How does the CX90 compare with the RPM Air-Gap? Are they for different applications? Alex, what do you mean by 180 degree? If it is the same or better I would rather have the Motorsport # M-9424-A321 for $175 than the Air-Gap for $200 or better. ------------------ Candy Apple Red 66' Coupe Wide Ratio Toploader 2V 302 (icky!) 15" Styled Steel Wheels
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 04-10-2001 11:35 PM
FRPP and C90X are not the same! They are similar in appearance only. Much smaller runners on the FRPP intake. I would use an Edelbrock Air Gap over the new FRPP 180 degree intake. 180 degree intake has over and under runners which feed cylinders on opposite sides with a siamized plenum. Unlike an open plenum Victor Jr with straight on runners. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member Fleet of FoMoCo products Moneymaker Bio US Class Nationals link
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3969 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 04-11-2001 12:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: FRPP and C90X are not the same! They are similar in appearance only. Much smaller runners on the FRPP intake. I would use an Edelbrock Air Gap over the new FRPP 180 degree intake.
Thanks Alex, guess that means I'll have to ante up to the $250 bucks!!
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