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mellowyellow
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posted 03-31-2001 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wehn I restored my 65 GT, I tossed the original {foolishly gave it away} because I wanted a bit more beef. Well, it is hitting the right strut rod. A couple other people are having the same problem. My bar is a 1". The local Mustang supply sells Addco. We measured his stock of 3 and they were all the same. My car is straight and the struts are straight. All bushings are new and everything else seems to be OK. Anyone else had this problem with heavier than stock bars. Also: on 67-68, a nice sway bar to use is one from a Monarch or Granada. It is like an original GT bar. I got a complete one for $7.00 at U-pick.

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sigtauenus
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posted 03-31-2001 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mellowyellow:
on 67-68, a nice sway bar to use is one from a Monarch or Granada. It is like an original GT bar. I got a complete one for $7.00 at U-pick.

what years there mellow, and how thick are they?

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sigtauenus
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posted 03-31-2001 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW my car came with "domestic heavy duty suspension". I don't know what that entails, but figured it was bigger than stock sway bar. Should just measure what I already have, not sure if it would be the same size as what came on the GT's or not.

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66 coupe
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posted 03-31-2001 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 coupe   Click Here to Email 66 coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this because the end links are too short or are the bends just completly wrong?

I have a 1" bar from Mustang Plus on mine and had no problems fitting it.

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Ken
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posted 04-01-2001 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is hitting on the drivers side (installed yesterday) , is this a problem ??

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-01-2001 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken: It appears that it could be a problem for some. Not everyone I've talked to has but three of us have. Initially, I had the wrong links but I just changed those to Addco links. They measure right against an original. Sig: The Granadas and Monarchs are 75-76. I believe the thickness is the same as the GT bar. You may already have the heavy one.

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Ken
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posted 04-01-2001 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what problem will there be if the sway bar touches in this area ?? Does the sway bar flex that much where there will be any problems when driving the car ??

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-02-2001 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHen going over dips or hard left turn, it hits the strut rod hard enough to hear it inside. After seeing the pic of the broken strut rod in M&Fords couple months ago...makes me wonder. It cant be good!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-02-2001 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, you definitely don't want that.

Can you space the sway bar down?

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Ken
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posted 04-02-2001 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Can you space the sway bar down?

Space it down as in shim it somehow ?? How about filing the bar where it hits ??

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-02-2001 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, don't file it. That will give a crack a place to start.

If you can move it down, a pair of 1/4" or 1/2" aluminum spacers would do the trick.

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Ken
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posted 04-02-2001 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to have to give it a real close look once the new engine is in (by the end of the week)!!! Then I'll be able to see if and where a shim can be placed. I suppose if worse comes to worse I can take it back and replace it with a different brand name .

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-02-2001 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to look into fabricating spacers. Duh!! It didn't enter my mind to think about that. Thanks

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-02-2001 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-03-2001 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easy to do with aluminum Pete.

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Ken
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posted 04-03-2001 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So tell me Alex or Steve, exactly where would these spacers be placed (in lay-men terms please)

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kcode
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posted 04-03-2001 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken,
the spacer will go between the mounting brackets, the horseshoe shaped ones with bushings, and the frame. Even after the spacer is added, jack the car up and down on each side so the control arms swing through an arc to see if it clears the strut rods.

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-04-2001 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got some 3/8" billet aluminum. When I made spacers for my valve covers to clear the rocker arms, I had this material as the cut out part. I think this will get the job done. At club meet last nite, a member had the same problem but he had bought a 1 1/8" sway which is WAY too thick. He is getting a 1" bar.

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-05-2001 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: I went to the local Tire Kingdom and got some new alignment shims. I am going to try these first along with some longer grade 8 bolts. If this doesn't work, will do the billet spacers.

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Ken
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posted 04-05-2001 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, thanks for all the suggestions guys !!! My alleged problem disappeared as soon as the new motor was dropped in . Everything clears perfectly now ?!?!? (DOHhhhhhhh)

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