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67coupe
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posted 03-07-2001 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe   Click Here to Email 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im getting ready to buy headers for the 67 with a 351c, and have been looking at the hooker comp and super comp has anyone used either set and how did you like them? Oh and what is the diff between the 2 is one just thicker than the other or they diff all together? thanks for any help guys

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-07-2001 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Super Comp is not only of higher quality, but it is closer to equal length and a true performance header. The Comp is Hooker's econo version that is produced in Mexico and is generally not an equal length header.

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67coupe
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posted 03-07-2001 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe   Click Here to Email 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Alex but are the tubes fairly thick or are they made of the thin easy to rust out pipes. im kind of on a budget but dont want toreplace them in a few years and equal length aint quite top on my list to spend money on. but thanks for the help.

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-08-2001 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are on a budget then save you money and buy some 4 tube Headmans for $100 instead. They are as good as Hooker comps.

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sigtauenus
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posted 10-06-2002 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked about the ceramic coating a month or so ago and the general consensus was that the Hooker Super Comps are the best, but overkill for a street car and that the Hooker Comp or Hedman headers would be more practical but still give good performance.

So, I was looking at the specs on the Hedman and Hooker Comp, and it looks like the Hedman hedders (as they like to spell it) are significantly cheaper, but won't work with a manual transmission. What's up with that?

Are there any fit problems with the Hooker Comp headers and a stock 4 spd set-up? For those of you who don't me, I have a 302 in a 68 fastback.

Looks like Summit has the best prices for the ceramic coated headers, anybody know of a cheaper source?

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posted 10-06-2002 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all depends on the clutch "Z" bar you ultimatly use. Some will fit well, some will need to be modified, and some will require a bit of tube dinging. The 289 3-speed "Z" bar is the worst offender.

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ice'68
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posted 10-06-2002 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice'68   Click Here to Email ice'68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sigtauenus:
Looks like Summit has the best prices for the ceramic coated headers, anybody know of a cheaper source?

Jegs has some good prices too.

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Robert K
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posted 10-07-2002 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert K   Click Here to Email Robert K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got the ceramic coated Super Comps on my 65 with a 4 speed and although the fit is tight, I haven't had any problems yet other than it makes the spark plugs harder to get to. With a 67, you should have plenty of room. I can post pics of the 65 if you would like to see.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 10-07-2002 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn`t get to worried about tube thickness on the headers. I have the "cheapo" Heddmans on both my 302 Fairmont & my 74 F350 ramp truck with a 390. Both sets of headers are ugly & rusty looking, as they were never painted or coated, & the factory "paint" burnt off in no time. But the headers on the truck have been in since 1991, the Fairmont since 1994(and I bought them used for $20.00 at that time!!)As for coatings, there are several independant shops that do ceramic coating. I had the custom made headers that TomP built for my 428 Fairmont coated with the silver ceramic coating by a local shop (Kool Koat)up here in BC Canada, & after a full season of racing, they still look like new. However, be sure to ask around for other peoples opinions! There were several racers who had their headers coated at a couple of other shops that were not happy.Most people I have talked to about their header coatings from JetHot were happy with the results.The place that did my 428 headers normally charge $300.00 Canadian(about $190. US) for normal headers, mine were a bit more, as all 8 tubes plus the collectors are seperate pieces. They also coated inside the tubes, with a perforated, flexible wand, that slips inside the tubing. I`m quite happy with the results.

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78 Fairmont 428 4 speed 10.20@130mph
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA Stocker under construction, 302 5 speed
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
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