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Topic: IGNITION BOXES ?????
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70 Pony
Gearhead Posts: 1814
From: Glenmoore, PA, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 08:21 AM
   
Opinions on what is the best ignition box for a mostly street, occasinal strip 351 Windsor...TFS Heads, Comp Ex Energy Cam 212 to 220 lift, E Brock RPM Intake....750 E Brock or 650 DP Carb, Mallory unilite distributor....etc etc...mid to high 3's Horse Power when tuned right.
Currently using the MSD entry level Blaster Box...want to step up to a Capacitive Multi Spark unit...
Getting confused between....Crane Hi6 fireball...Mallory Hy Fire, MSD 6AL, Holley Annhihilator....Accel 300 plus etc...
Want something simple...under $200..easy to install..and small....
Everybody says there's puts out more spark !!..Using an MSD Blaster coil...
Thanks:------------------
EDDIE D
Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof
Arrest Me Red
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33525
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-07-2001 09:29 AM
I like the MSD 6AL, but this should be a great topic.------------------
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6549
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 10:11 AM
Eddie,Check out the new MSD '6 PLUS' box. It's a little over your $200 limit, but it does soo much more. It contains two rev limiters that are set with dials (no chips) and a spark retard (if you decide to run N2O) My son just bought one for his S/S car and it looks like the way to go.  We're running the Crane HI6 in the Mustang, but we'd sure like to have a second rev limiter. (for the waterbox burn outs) Good to see you coming out of hybenation Eddie. SteveW
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70 Pony
Gearhead Posts: 1814
From: Glenmoore, PA, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 03:44 PM
Thanks Steve and Steve.....Just had 9 inches of wet heavy snow Monday but temps in the hi 40's are melting it fast...
Daylight at 5:30 PM and 6:45 AM...soon there will be robins...630 sunsets....530 sunrises and 65 degree temps...SPRING FEVER SETTING IN...CAR FEVER AROUND THE CORNER...
By the way Steve...I never understood the 2 rev limiters...is it one for the burn out and one for the shift misses ????
Do you have to de-activate one then turn on the other......
Hope to get more input....I guess the consensus is I should definitely have a "good" box to get the most out of my motor ... right ??
By the way.....does it make changing the spark gap a necessity...(wider)?
Thanks:------------------
EDDIE D
Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4577
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 04:19 PM
I run the MSD 6T box in my 70 street car, have a 6T box in my Granada, and use a 7AL-2 in the racecar. I really like the MSD products, I have never had any problems with any of them.
I don't think it is a necassity to increase the gap, but I always have. The MSD (or any good cd type box) will fire a lot larger gap than a non-cd ignititon.
Usually one of the rev-limiters is activated by an outside hot wire, like to a line lok for a burnout, or a trans brake button for the launch. The other is built in over-rev protection.
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Billgear
Gearhead Posts: 182
From: Concord,CA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 06:56 PM
I have the crane hi-fire, built in rev limiter. Works great, easy to install!
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65coupei6
Gearhead Posts: 415
From: S.F., CA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 02-07-2001 08:09 PM
I like my MSD-6A. No rev. limiter but I don't need it with my 6 banger. The 6AL should work great and its easy to install. My Pertronix coil works great with it. But if you are going MSD might as well go all the way.
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70 Pony
Gearhead Posts: 1814
From: Glenmoore, PA, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-08-2001 10:08 AM
NO MALLORY HY FIRE'S OUT THERE ????
Just looking for more input...thanks for what I got guys...------------------
EDDIE D
Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6549
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 02-08-2001 10:46 AM
Eddie,For you I vote for the Crane HI-6, for under $150 and it's built in rev limiter may save your new motor! It will work with your Mallory distributor too.  SteveW
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kcode
Gearhead Posts: 2593
From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-08-2001 01:28 PM
Ok Eddie,
I've got the Hyfire in my coupe with a Unilite distributor, no complaints.On Becks convert, I went with the Accel 300+ with a Accel Billetproof distributor. Only complaint with Accel, they should offer a distributor with mag pickup and no internal module at a reduced cost. This distributor with the 300+ ign. doesn't use the high priced module that is already installed in the Dist. Mike
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302Mustang66
Journeyman Posts: 41
From: Virginia
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 02-08-2001 07:53 PM
MSD 6Plus all the way. I just put one in my 95 and I have one for my 66 restomod. I'm useing MSD billrt dis. in both cars. I had a 6AL in the 95 and I'm vary pleased with it but with the amount of juice I'm runing in it the retard and 2nd rev limiter is great.
i've been useing MSD products for years and I've only had one problem which the folks at MSD fixed quickly and without hassel. ------------------
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1995 Mustang
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1966 Mustang Coupe
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19705
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-08-2001 08:12 PM
Up until this year we have always used MSD ignitions. Several failures.  On the positive side their service was impecable and defective units were repalced over night! I did testing for Crane and Holley both this year. Crane Hi-Fire actually made 4 more HP than the MSD 7AL-2. Holley was on par with the Crane, but much more user friendly. We have now converted the fleet to Holley ignitions exclusivly. I love the in car adjustability. This is a system perfect for you Eddie. Holley #800-200. ------------------
Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1525
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-10-2001 03:33 PM
70 Pony:
Sounds like you may of already decided on a setup, but if not, put my hat in the ring for Mallory. I have used the Mallory HyFire for only two years, but it has never given me one bit of problem in my 302. It consists of the #692 HyFire IVc control box which has to rev limiters set by toggle switches (easy & handy), a #29625 Promaster coil (which may be a bit much, if redline is less than 6000rpms, the #29440 would be the better piece) and a #3744501 flat-cap Unilite distributor. I like the flat-cap because I can use my straight MC bar instead of no bar or the curved bar. Good Luck! Ryan ------------------
The '3-Pedal Attitude' Kid
in a '69 FB w/ 306 now, but
the 460+ is coming... :D
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17927
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-10-2001 07:31 PM
I'm using the MSD 6A with MDS coil and MSD Dist.
also putting same in son 67 Coupe..rather he is sam
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Gary
Gearhead Posts: 725
From: Sarasota, Fla. USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-10-2001 09:24 PM
MSD 6AL box, & MSD Pro-billet distributor. Buy your last one first ;-) Great for street/strip use.
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70 Pony
Gearhead Posts: 1814
From: Glenmoore, PA, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-11-2001 09:53 AM
MAN....thanks for all the help and advice...all things considered right now I'm leaning towards a Crane Hi-6 and a Crane LX91 coil or the PS91 (The LX is smaller and room is an issue)....$160.99 and $48.99 or $44.99 (PS91)in Jeg's..
How's that sound with my set up and any forseeable problems with the Mallory Unilite Distributor (which is brand new)...???
Looking for a non complicated install since I am a moron !!!
Thanks------------------
EDDIE D
Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof
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