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66 coupe
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posted 01-10-2001 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 coupe   Click Here to Email 66 coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Aussie sixes arrived and I got them into the garage yesterday. From left to right, a 2V carbureted X-flow, the EFI xflow, a US250 with an Aussie 2V head (separate intake manifold), and a US200 with EFI bungs and a Tempo throttle body.

On the counter are two EFI intakes, a spare alloy valve cover, a double roller timing chain and a few other bits. You can see the headers and on the shelf above it is a 290 degree cam. I also have enough gaskets to do three Aussie crossflow engines. And there's still the US250 engine in the coupe.

Anyway, this is it, my secret laboratory.

The EFI Crossflow is going into the coupe with a 290 degree cam and a T5. Should make in the neighborhood of 220-230 hp.

This is the Aussie 250 2v head on a US250 block.

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Jack Collins
'66 coupe 250/AOD
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The Iceman
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posted 01-10-2001 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Iceman   Click Here to Email The Iceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jack, first off YOURE NO FAIR! haha best of luck with all your engines!
Second, what type of header coating would you recommend for my Clifford header (I didnt want to spend $250 extra or so to have Clifford coat it!)
Thanks and, youre just no fair like i said

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TomP
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posted 01-10-2001 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool! Now where is Tim when we need him?

Jack,
How did you ship the engines? I inquired but got scared off after the first price quote.

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66 coupe
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posted 01-11-2001 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 coupe   Click Here to Email 66 coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John Douglas shipped all this stuff from Perth, Western Australia to Orlando, FL. It went overland to Melbourne, by ocean freight to Los Angeles, then overland to Orlando, where I picked it up at the freight distribution center.

Total cost to ship the 1.2 cubic meter, 580 kg crate was $350US, plus about $200 in documentation and handling charges. There were no US customs duties since it was almost all used parts for personal use and the declared value was low.

Curiously, it would have cost very little more for a heavier crate since ocean freight rates are computed on volume and weight.

For header coatings, I can recommend Airborn Coatings. See Stan Clayton's website at http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stanclayton/header.html for pictures and prices.

Keep an eye on my website for details on the buildup.

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Jack Collins
'66 coupe 250/AOD
Crossflow!
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Moneymaker
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posted 01-11-2001 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great stuff Jack!

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The Iceman
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posted 01-11-2001 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Iceman   Click Here to Email The Iceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info Jack!

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TomP
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posted 01-11-2001 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah thanks Jack

an Aussie guy i know says he can find that 6 banger stuff almost free down there... shipping becomes the expense. Thats not so bad tho.

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66 coupe
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posted 01-11-2001 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 coupe   Click Here to Email 66 coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right about nearly free. JD got the carbed engine complete from air cleaner to oil pan for $65.

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Jack Collins
'66 coupe 250/AOD
Crossflow!
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-31-2001 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did the engine turn out? Did you find a V8 to beat?

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posted 10-31-2001 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 coupe   Click Here to Email 66 coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The engine turned out really well. It is fast as heck and a ball to drive. even with the 292 cam, it idles like silk at 700 rpm and pulls easily to the 6000rpm redline. The SDS EFI is helping me nail down a 22mpg average. The WC T-5 helps.

I have yet to take it to the track, but a couple of impromptu time/distance runs on the local roads leads me to believe it will run low 15's.

Here's a picture.

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Jack Collins
'66 coupe
250 Crossflow / T-5
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posted 10-31-2001 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice installation, Jack!

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posted 08-27-2002 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how is the six working out, Jack?

Have you gotten any 1/4 mile numbers on it?

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The Iceman
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posted 08-28-2002 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Iceman   Click Here to Email The Iceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, actually Jack sold his Aussie powered Stang within the past month and a half!
Hes got some other projects up his sleeve i think but Im sure hell put up a reply here!

have a good one

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posted 08-28-2002 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Dan!

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posted 08-29-2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amartin725   Click Here to Email amartin725     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually,

It runs very well, but I don't think he ever ran it down the 1/4. He had it up for sale to make room for a new project, but found out it had some structural problems with the shock tower so he has decided to use parts from it to make something else. The end product will be an inline-powered vehicle similar to this

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posted 02-12-2004 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, you know, this may be a viable option for the 6 in my convertible. Hmmm...

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Red65
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posted 02-12-2004 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is sacrilege, but I wonder if anyone has ever put a modern BMW inline-six into a Mustang? 333 rear-wheel HP out of a 3.2 liter in-line six isn't too shabby!

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posted 02-12-2004 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, that's sacrilege, not to mention probably stupidly expensive.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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posted 02-13-2004 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least it would be less worse (is that proper grammar?) than the Chebby V8 engined K-code coupe my dad picked up a couple years ago. It was even had a leaf spring front suspension.

I really enjoy seeing folks hop-up the inline 6.

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posted 02-13-2004 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amartin725   Click Here to Email amartin725     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a passion for the I6's, but they can be expensive. The bottom ends of the US versions can handle anything and never break. The problem is the choked integral intake. The best mod is to get the Aussie 250 2V head, but that could run over $1100 easy for shipping/rebuild. Forced induction is another way to get great numbers, but it's all R&D as no one makes kits (not that I?m opposed to that, but just don?t have the interest). Hacking off the intake log is another option, but then you have to fab something up. That is not a big deal until you then have other problems that may develop years later. Then what do you do? You're on your own.

I'm really starting to like the 3.0 / 3.9 Duratecs in the Lincoln LS and Jaguar S-Type. All aluminum, DOHC motors with plenty of power to push my coupe. I'd prefer to run it with an aftermarket ECU (Holley, SDS, ElectroMotive, etc), but the latest versions of the Duratecs had variable valve timing, which will require the factory ECU. Kenne Bell also makes a supercharger for the 3.0. The 3.9 version is not offered with a manual, only a 5-speed auto. I'm still toying with the idea and am hoping something falls into my lap. Here are auctions for 2 brand new ones that went without bid

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2457908643

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46098&item=2457910700


However, less than 2 miles from my house is a yard that will sell me a 5.0 from a '98 Mountaineer with less than 40K miles for $500. I already have the V8 T-5, flywheel, bell and clutch set. How can I go wrong with that?

Al

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posted 02-13-2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amartin725   Click Here to Email amartin725     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, If anyone is interested in any Aussie Crossflow parts, I have some for sale on eBay.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=amartin725&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1

If anyone is interested and doesn't use eBay, let me know.

Al

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posted 02-16-2004 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red65:
At least it would be less worse (is that proper grammar?) than the Chebby V8 engined K-code coupe my dad picked up a couple years ago.

Not quite, at least the chevy is American.

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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posted 02-16-2004 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But some of the best vehicles ever made have been a mix of American and other nationalities:

Shelby Cobra (UK body, USA engine)
P-51 Mustang (USA airframe, UK engine)
Pantera (Italian body, USA engine)
and best of all, my 1995 Ford 150 (USA engine and body, Mazda tranny)!!!

I'm apolgize to have hi-jacked this thread. Peace!!!

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posted 02-17-2004 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red65:
my 1995 Ford 150, Mazda tranny)!!!

So you got the one that stayed together!

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