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bibbs68
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From: Medina, TN
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 08-19-2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
I have been given a T5 tranny (at least it is supposed to be a T5) and I want to make sure it will work with my car before I spend money on a rebuild. Here are all the numbers and such that I could find on the tranny.

On the front box top plate: "87" cast inside a starburst (87 model?), a capital letter Q, Borg Warner, and 13-52-097-913

On the side of the front box: The word "Basic" in a script font, 13-52-365-908, and Borg Warner

On the tail section: R3, Borg Warner, 13-52-066-919

Near the shifter: 4569245

That is all I could find. Any help would be appreciated. Also, if it will work, where is a good place to get rebuild parts? I'd like to give it a try myself. Also, are there any good books out there for doing a rebuild on a T5? Thanks as always!

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Hemikiller
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From: Killingworth, CT
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 08-19-2003 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller        Reply w/Quote
There should be an aluminum tag attrached under one of the bolts on the case. This tag has a 3 digit code #, in the 1XX range. Go to:

ahhh, dammit, can't find the link....

I'll find it after work, or try a google search for "T-5 codes" or something..

There is a chart out there.

bibbs68
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From: Medina, TN
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posted 08-19-2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
Well, there was no tag. So, now what?

GypsyR
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From: SC
Registered: May 2002

posted 08-20-2003 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyR        Reply w/Quote
Maybe this will help.
http://www.therangerstation.com/T5ID.htm

bibbs68
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posted 08-20-2003 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
Well, I did find out that it is an '87 V8 tranny. What I also found out when I removed the gearbox cover was a mess. Okay, it's not that bad, but there are two gears for sure that need replaced and another piece that I have to replace. I have no idea what it is called or where it goes as it was laying in the bottom of the tranny.

Where is a good place to get parts to rebuild this thing? I would like to do it myself and save some money.

BornInAFord
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From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 08-20-2003 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord        Reply w/Quote
Bibbs,
Both D and D performance http://ddperformance.com/driveline.htm and Hanlon http://www.HanlonMotorsports.com have rebuild kits and Hanlon has a blowup view. Both sell complete rebuild books ($15) to help you on your way. I would buy the book first, then decide what you need to buy. There are also some rebuild sites on the net
(do a google search) such as http://66.96.130.106/archives/2002/09/transmissions/index.shtml (click on the rebuild manual in PDF form), and http://stangcrazy.com/tech/techarticles/t5rebuild.htm.

If you plan on going ahead with the rebuild, I would suggest upgrading to better internals. Let us know how it goes. Good luck on your quest.
Daniel

bibbs68
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From: Medina, TN
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posted 08-20-2003 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
Thanks Daniel for the links! Now I am really confused. The tranny I have has the pigtail like the WC but the shape of the gear box is more like the Standard T5.

I have a feeling this project is gonna go south in a hurry.

BornInAFord
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From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 08-21-2003 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord        Reply w/Quote
Jeremy,

If your tranny is dated later than 1986.5 (yours is at least an 87), it should be a World Class, as all T5s made after 86 1/2 were WC.

Is yours for a V8 or a 4cyl?

Daniel

bibbs68
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From: Medina, TN
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posted 08-21-2003 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BornInAFord:
Jeremy,

If your tranny is dated later than 1986.5 (yours is at least an 87), it should be a World Class, as all T5s made after 86 1/2 were WC.

Is yours for a V8 or a 4cyl?

Daniel



Thanks Daniel. It is an 8cyl model with the .668" shaft.

BornInAFord
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From: Bend, OR, USA
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posted 08-21-2003 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord        Reply w/Quote
The WC was different from the standard (non-WC) by having tapered roller bearings and having heavier duty blocker rings. I think the cases are VERY similar externally.
Daniel

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